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Thoughts for the morning...

On the way into the work this morning, I was struck by some idle random thoughts. I've been flipping through some personal ads lately, just to see what people present themselves as, and how they view themselves. Hell, maybe even to answer one or two. (which, I have, thankyouverymuch...onyx is working on her shyness. *smirk*)One person had a dislike, that for whatever reason, has snagged my attention and I've been chewing over it for the last couple days. He said that he dislikes two legged sheep. While I get the general gist of what he's saying by that...it does lead to a deeper thought. I mean, how does one really define a 'two legged sheep'? If you think about it, we all 'follow' our own little groups..conform to those around us, at least to some degree. Its human nature to want to belong, to be accepted...and to do that, we conform. Yeah, not all of us conform to the 'mainstream' of society, or the 'norm'..but, that 'mainstream' and 'norm' are getting harder and harder to find nowadays. Or is that just me? Is it just that my view of people has changed? I've grown older, had more experience under my belt....is it now that I view human nature much more clearly? I mean..everyone uses that..the 'norm' or 'typical'..but, really, what *is* that? Is it the same for everyone? I doubt it. My 'typical' is ...people like the goth board, or variations. Do I conform to them? To some degree, yes. Does it make me a sheep? Not in my view...but, perhaps to his? Or others who think like he does?
I watch people all the time, people fascinate me. Not on an individual basis necessarily, but group interactions...or even intimate interactions. Have you ever just watched how people relate? You can see it. A common theme among all of one group. A certain trend in thinking, speaking, dressing, whatever. We all congregate toward people who share like attitudes, thoughts, styles, etc. .... therefore, we conform. Where then, are we 'sheep'? Or is it...being *exactly* like a certain group? And, really, I've never seen a group that's *exactly* the same. Every group has subtle differences. Or some blaringly obvious differences. So..I guess my question ..to myself...to you..to anyone who cares to share a thought, a view....is: What does it take for you to view someone as a sheep? Why? And..if using the 'norm' as comparison...what is the 'norm' for you?

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( 9 comments — Drop A Feather )
i_dread
Jun. 12th, 2002 01:26 pm (UTC)
i more or less get annoyed at sheep who refuse to think for themselves. they reguratate what ever partyline they've been told without any chance of ever thinking or expounding further on the statement(s). it's more or less the inability to think outside the box i guess. you find them working in the public sector and for the government.
onyxangel
Jun. 12th, 2002 01:30 pm (UTC)
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Those you find everywhere, not just limited to them. I guess for me, its uneducated people. I don't necessarily mean book educated....I mean, life educated. People without common sense, and there are a *lot* of them.
elfric
Jun. 12th, 2002 02:32 pm (UTC)
Sheep are people who can't think for themselves. They are continual followers who follow the herd. Whatever the herd does, they do, good or bad. Most of the time this is ok, but there are times when it's good to be unique and different. Of course, there is also the opposite extreme which is rebel without a cause territory (i.e. doing anything at all, good or bad, as long as it's not what everyone else is doing (or ANYONE sometimes). Neither extreme is very good, IMO. Like everything else, it's best to be balanced, not too sheepy and not too rebellious.
9thmoon
Jun. 12th, 2002 05:20 pm (UTC)
What they said.
People who adopt other people's attitudes/beliefs/mannerisms, all chameleon and no new synapses firing.
onyxangel
Jun. 12th, 2002 05:31 pm (UTC)
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Yeah...but, really, how often do you run into that?
9thmoon
Jun. 12th, 2002 05:52 pm (UTC)
Um... six people in ten that I run into in public.
People that I specifically seek out where there's already something in common (gaming, lj, classes, whatever) maybe one in ten.
onyxangel
Jun. 12th, 2002 06:02 pm (UTC)
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Hmn...maybe I'm just blind. It doesn't seem like I run into it that often
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onyxangel
Jun. 13th, 2002 10:54 am (UTC)
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Okay....I'm sorry..but defining a sheep as someone who likes Brittany? Its your *opinion* that she doesn't sing well. I happen to like a few of her songs (though I'm not really a fan)....and if we're defining sheep by musical tastes....what the fuck is all that noise people call 'music'? You know...the ones where they stand up there, beat the guitars and drums and scream at the audience?
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onyxangel
Jun. 13th, 2002 08:48 pm (UTC)
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I still maintain that music is subjective, at least to some degree, and it *is* opinion. I can venture to say that you'd like music that I don't and vice versa, if it were objective, we'd all like the same. Prime example: I like Metallica...others don't. I can't stand the Beastie Boys..yet, how many albums have they sold? Or..lets take the same genre...I like Beethoven, but I don't like Mozart.


(her friend)
When it comes to songs like Night on bald Mountain... you need ask yourself... How many people in this age would have known it from any other piece save for it's appearance in a Disney flick called Fantasia? His use of punctuation, and the occasional diminished chord, made the song. Through this song creations were made in the imagination for it to be an evil piece. It is a scary night with ghosts... or a raging sea. Such is the life of any song you come accross wether it be old or new. Jethro Tull was a hit band who took music and rock to a whole new level without the marketing ploy. They did write their own music and it was great. Now adays, we find that most singers have nothing to do with the writing of the music. They just get up and sing it... You must realize though that with every song that is selected to be published comes a selection of the voice. As it were, britney..(who I personally do not like) has a very distinct voice...(though it may sound like a drowning rat to me). The songs she has done would not work with any other voice. She makes the songs. If you had any of those other bippy twats up there singing oops I did it again or hit me baby one more time... the songs would not have done so well. The writing stems from how she exicutes the songs. Look at some of the new female vocalists out there right now. some of them are mighty plain and some are "chunky". Yet they have hits that play on the radio all the time.

You see... reffering certain types of music to that of fireworks or a lawn mower proves the point of subjection. You like what others don't... one man's junk is another man's treasure. I am a music major and I understand the scientific end of it and wether you like it or not it is music... take trashing the camp for example for tarzan...though some of the crashes had a note to them not all did... It worked just fine. If you don't like it don't listen to it. If you do... enjoy it
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